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Sunday, October 4, 2009
Meeting Minutes
We had a great time at our meeting today! I want as always to thank everyone for coming and making for a conversation that was to be remarkable. There were many potential market plays so I have decided to devote an adequate section to each play below with a corresponding chart. We had a total of 7 attendees: (from left to right) Kay Olds, Phil Garcia, Earl Landry, Tommy Schultz (who came later one), VJ Arjan, Jeff Harrington, and Kevin Day.
The following market plays were given by Kevin Day, Jeff Harrington, and Phil Garcia:
CIT Group Inc. (CIT)
Kevin Day and Jeff Harrington were expressing their belief that this company is “too involved” to fail. We will find out this week whether this company will live or die depending on the agreement that is reached with the bondholders. As this company provides short-term lending for 60% of retailers, one can make a plausible argument for its survival. Jeff Harrington is wary of its survival, however, as the agreement with the bondholders is for them to hold equity stakes in the company. An enormous dilution of shares would result and the hypothetical ceiling, Jeff thinks, for this stock should be its historical high adjusted for shares outstanding.
Gold – Yamana Gold Corp. (AUY), SPDR Gold Trust (GLD)
Phil thinks that gold could make a breakout of the $1,000 an ounce level. He thinks the chart has been in the consolidation phase for a while is ready for a upward break. He and VJ Arjan both have owned AUY and may expect to profit more should this occur.
Santa Fe Gold Corporation (SFEG)
As can be seen in the chart, this stock has exploded in share price and volume in the past week, climbing 30% in the last week alone. Kevin Day was expressing the incredible growth potential for this stock. There are 80 million shares outstanding. He knows at least 20 owners of this firm who hold at least 1 million shares. The CEO, Pierce Carson, owns some more millions of shares. The exits, therefore, are blocked. This company has been waiting for a water permit to be secured for production and it is a likely buy-out candidate, perhaps Barrick Gold Corporation or Neumont Mining, etc.
Novovax (NVAX), Vical Corporation (VICL), Cel-Sci Corporation (CVM)
Jeff Harrington was expounding his idea of how to play the swine flu phenomenon. Novovax had been trading in the $3s before he picked some up and it proceeded to $6.50. Recently, the company announced more shares to be issued and this stock has fallen 50% to $3.43 as of Friday’s close. Jeff thinks that this is share issuance has led many investors to believe that the share price is too high, leading to a sell-off, in other words, a market over-reaction. The health minister of Spain and India, both of whom have been affected by the swine flu, have backed Novovax for the production of the swine flu vaccine. There is currently, 11 million shares of short interest, and these will have to cover. The prospects and profits for NVAX, VICL and CVM look bright.
Utility Stocks (Duke Energy, etc.)
Jeff Harrington spoke about how he thought dividend-paying stocks have lagged non-dividend paying stocks in this rally and as a correction may be in the near-future, the enormous $4 trillion of money that is on the side lines may proceed to enter into these dividend-paying stocks. He especially likes Duke Energy which currently yields 6.25% (5 times as much as mutual funds are able to get in the money market). Add to this a book value of less than 1, and there is a possibility of great potential here.
Genworth Financial (GNW)
Kevin Day had picked up this stock when it was trading in the pennies. Currently it is at $11.32 per share and he believes, with a book value of $23, there is still potential to the upside.
Banks - Bank of America (BAC), Wells Fargo (WFC)
Jeff Harrington especially likes bank stocks as they are considered undervalued according to the business cycle theory (sell banks during booms and buy banks during recessions). BAC, he believes, will be a financial powerhouse in the years to come with its acquisition of Countrywide Home Loans and Merrill-Lynch. Wells Fargo will be the number 2 servicer, albeit the bad PR it received recently with the executive throwing lavish parties in foreclosed properties. Jeff is specifically looking for a breakout from the $30 a share range.
Interest Rates
“When interest rates are low, stocks will grow; when interest rates are high, stocks will die.” – Phil Garcia
The probability is that interest rates will increase in the near-future as we climb out of this recessionary period and proceed to the expansionary phase. Jeff Harrington believes that interest rates are follow a 40-year cycle and that currently they are at the lows, or a new cycle is beginning. He is also expecting the next pullback on the DJI to be about 500 points, but still a bull market. He is noticing that companies are building up substantial cash positions as they continue to lay off employees. There is also an increase of merger and acquisitions that are leading to more money for company coffers. It may be recalled that in the last month, Dell acquired Perot Systems and Xerox acquired Affiliated Computer Services. There will be, therefore, a “jobless recovery” due to companies focusing on core businesses and mergers and acquisitions.
What Moves the Market?
We listened into a debate today between Jeff Harrington and Phil Garcia about how to best profit from the market. Jeff Harrington explained that principally the competitiveness of a company’s position in the market, the market environment, and the analysis of its cash flow and balance sheet position should determine one’s interest. On the other hand, Phil Garcia, who made his money of Yahoo and Dell believes that it is good to look at price levels and not to analyze too much before making an investment decision so as not to fall prey to ‘analysis paralysis’.
Both sides made very compelling arguments and the conclusion we came to as a group was that each person may have a different and personalized investing style and each one may be successful. Of course, both Phil and Jeff are enormously successful investors and traders, so suffice it to say that each one’s style has definitely worked for them. If one is curious to follow the dialogue of this interesting debate, it will be located between minutes 47-55 in the audio recording of the meeting, the link to which is given below.
The Stock Recommendation
Oftentimes we hear an “expert” on Bloomberg state that he or she thinks a certain stock or commodity may be going up or down. Some may make money by following such advice, some may lose. But the key, according to Phil Garcia, is how long is the timeframe for the recommendation. In other words, one may be long or short the market, but it can mean a world of difference if it pertains to the long or short-term. Phil, it may be recalled, made his money riding the tech bubble and selling close to the top. He made, in truth, more money in a few years that may have taken someone else decades to make. At this point, Jeff Harrington brought up Joe Kennedy’s quote that when he hears the shoeshine boy advising him of stock recommendations, one needs to sell immediately.
Protective Measures
Phil Garcia was explaining how he has seen many persons lose fortunes due to their lack of protective measures to retain their profits. Phil, therefore, does not forecast the direction of certain stocks or even give recommendations for certain situations for he feels them to be personalized and suitable to himself alone. One must, however, learn to protect ones profits as the market has the reputation for giving many a man a good lesson for relying upon its arrogance.
Danger in the Middle East
We brought up briefly whether it was of danger that Iran was possibly developing the capability of nuclear weapons. Kevin Day explained that this was certainly not an idle threat and it was very possible that Iran would decide to take matters into its own hands in reference to Israel. This, should it happen, would mean the literal wiping off of Iran from the map of the world for minutes after the attack, they would be showered by atomic bombs in the hundreds. It is a precarious position no doubt for Iran to be in, and it should be of great concern to the world powers that this capability be eliminated due to the radical fundamentalism of Iran’s leaders.
Simulated Portfolio
Date | Security | Entry | Current Price | Profit/Loss |
October 4th, 2009 | FXI (iShares FTSE/Xinhua China 25 Index | $25.16 | $40.10 | $1,493 |
October 4th, 2009 | ILF(iShares S&P Latin America 40 Index) | $26.60 | $42.45 | $1,603 |
October 4th,2009 | EWZ(iShares MSCI Brazil Index) | $37.69 | $67.61 | $2,999 |
October 4th, 2009 | PBJ(PowerShares Dynamic Food & Beverage) | $13.27 | $13.71 | $44 |
July 12, 2009 | GUR (SPDR S&P Emerging Europe) | $29.74 | $38.94 | $920 |
October 4th, 2009 | FCX (Freeport-McMoRan Copper & Gold Inc.) | $29.06 | $66.34 | $3,688 |
October 4th, 2009 | WLT (Walter Industries – metallurgical coal) | $38.75 | $55.92 | $1,644 |
October 4th, 2009 | RIO (Companhia Vale do Rio Doce – gold mining) | $13.12 | $23.19 | $1,000 |
October 4th, 2009 | GVA (Granite Construction Inc.) | $35.67 | $29.74 | -$606 |
October 4th, 2009 | MT (Arcelor-Mittal ADR) | $26.25 | $35.01 | $920 |
The next meeting will be on Sunday, November 1st, 2009. For those who have not attended a meeting, but would like to attend, please email your wish to VJ Arjan at scarletkings@gmail.com